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    预设 回复: 杰克逊“娈童案”主角自曝当年为了钱曾撒谎(组图)

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    这个不是假新闻。
    并不是中国人喜欢愚民,而是那帮无耻的八卦记者为了弄点新闻,
    不管真假,添油加醋一顿报导。

    MJ是全球艺人里面慈善贡献最大的!
    他没有幸福的童年,小的时候曾经受到过父亲的虐待。
    他只是想让那些不幸福的孩子幸福而已,
    但是,他不知道自己抓住的是毒蛇的尾巴。

    好比你要是看到一个摔倒在路边的老人,
    同情心促使你要上前扶一把。
    但是别人利用了你的同情心,反咬你说是你推的。
    这个有理,媒体有问题。。。
    看得懂英文就到老外的论坛上拉个小道消息,就当独家消息了。

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    假新闻。。。。
    为什么中国人那么喜欢愚民。。。。
    引用 作者: mafia123 查看文章
    不管怎么说,放假新闻愚人也是不对的.网络上人人都无法无天.
    死者为大。单说这个新闻的真假。。

    我在这个板块发的贴不多,但我从来不发假新闻。。。还没有时间到那个程度,谢谢!


    引用 作者: mafia123 查看文章
    这个有理,媒体有问题。。。
    看得懂英文就到老外的论坛上拉个小道消息,就当独家消息了。
    这个什么意思?

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    预设 回复: 杰克逊“娈童案”主角自曝当年为了钱曾撒谎(组图)

    你说这个是真新闻,你找到那个小男孩的blog文章发出来看看。
    别忘了,如果他有说 ,就犯了欺诈罪,2000万美金那,他爸该被电击死了,
    波出去的水,做出的事,收不回来的,那人也没那么傻。

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    预设 回复: 杰克逊“娈童案”主角自曝当年为了钱曾撒谎(组图)

    引用 作者: mafia123 查看文章
    你说这个是真新闻,你找到那个小男孩的blog文章发出来看看。
    别忘了,如果他有说 ,就犯了欺诈罪,2000万美金那,他爸该被电击死了,
    波出去的水,做出的事,收不回来的,那人也没那么傻。

    我现在没这个时间和兴趣去找谁的blog。。。我没有逼着你相信任何什么东西。。。


    我去考试了。。。

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    很多媒体做法(不管是现在,还是当时)确实有问题,MAFIA123的评价倒也客观地反映了现实:

    1、关于这条所谓新闻,查了,整个GOOGLE截止到现在共有9条新闻来源(很遗憾,没有一个是知名认可的权威网站),
    标题:“Jordan Chandler Admits He Lied About Michael Jackson

    Jordan Chandler was the kid who accused Michael Jackson of impropriety and led to the lawsuit against the famous singer. Now that Michael Jackson has passed away, there is renewed interest in the case for Jordan Chandler and Evan Chandler.

    Evan Chandler was the father of the boy who accused Michael Jackson that embroiled the now dead singer in one of his biggest criminal cases.
    The two - Michael and Jordan - had become friends but Jordan’s father Evan did not approve of the friendship. Very soon, the case took a tabaloidesuqe turn when the kid, prompted by his father, accused Michael Jackson of having a unnatural relation with the kid.

    Before you know it, the media and the law are hounding poor MJ. Now I don’t want to make it sound like MJ was all innocent. We will never know the truth it seems. Being a rich celebrity, it is very much possible that the kid’s family might have done it for the money, but who knows. Truth could be somewhere in between.

    Anyhow, I have heard rumors on the net. Now that Michael Jackson is dead, Jordan Chandler is claiming that he basically cooked up the story to defame MJ and for the money.

    I am not sure how much truth is there to it, but there are underground sites which are claiming that Jordan is asking for forgiveness and he is recanting the claims he made earlier about MJ being involved in a relationship with him.

    具体文章和评价,请参考:
    http://www.techbanyan.com/4554/jordan-chandler-admits-lied-about-michael-jackson/

    118条评价我大致扫阅了一下,非常有意思,正方反方提出了各式各样的观点,但无论怎样的观点,对这篇文章有怎样的看法,用语都非常文明!!!

    2、顺便搜索了下下其他网页,关于当年的这个“炒作”,一篇评论(虽也来自于非官方权威站点),但太赞了,很有水准,起码有助于我理清事件发生的来龙去脉(红色注明作者逻辑与论据),转载下下:

    Is Michael Jackson Guilty?

    by Jason Vines


    Michael Jackson has established himself as one of the most successful musical artists in history. His album Thriller—which won a record eight Grammies—remains the bestselling album of all–time, having sold over 51 million copies worldwide. Jackson's enormously popular videos for "Billie Jean," "Beat It," and "Thriller" eliminated MTV's reluctance to broadcast videos from black artists. Also, TV Guide, BET, and MTV determined "Thriller" to be the best music video ever made.

    Jackson's later albums also experienced phenomenal success. Bad, from 1987, was the second bestselling album of the 1980's, and it was the first album to have six number one singles. In addition, Jackson's Bad concert tour was the most successful tour ever. A few years later, Michael Jackson's Dangerous became the bestselling album of 1992, and Jackson's 1993 half–time performance at Super Bowl XXVII was at the time the highest rated show in television history.

    That year of 1993 was when the media's dogs pounced on Michael Jackson and tore his reputation to pieces.

    Almost everyone alive at the time would remember what happened. A young boy named Jordy Chandler accused Michael Jackson of molesting him, and not even 24 hours after the media discovered this, they had spread the allegation all across the globe. Tabloid writers and legitimate journalists alike competed fiercely amongst themselves to write or to air the most sensational stories about Jackson. Before long, the media had pronounced Jackson guilty of child molestation and had branded him a pedophile and a pervert.

    At first glance, the media's case against Michael Jackson appears strong. Jordy Chandler had provided to police descriptions both of Jackson's body parts and of the acts he said Jackson had performed upon him. Also, former housekeepers and security guards who had worked at Jackson's home, Neverland Ranch, asserted that they had witnessed Michael Jackson performing illicit acts with many young children. Finally, Jackson settled with the Chandler family out of court, an act many people interpreted as an attempt by Jackson to bribe the Chandlers to silence themselves about the molestation.

    Upon close scrutiny, though, the case against Michael Jackson collapses faster than a $10 tent hit by a $2 million missile. Jordy Chandler's famous descriptions of Jackson's body turned out to be incorrect. A dispatch from Reuters news service on January 27, 1994, revealed that when the police examined and photographed every micrometer of Jackson's body in an attempt to corroborate what Jordy had said, the police found that none of Jackson's features matched Jordy's descriptions.


    As for the boy's stories about his risqué encounters with Jackson, the circumstances under which those stories arose rob them of all credibility. Before Jordy Chandler said anything about molestation, the boy's father, Evan Chandler, an aspiring screenwriter, became angry at Michael Jackson for not helping him with his career in Hollywood. Therefore, as he revealed in a secretly recorded telephone conversation, Chandler launched a plan to destroy Michael Jackson, as he revealed in a secretly recorded telephone conversation exposed by GQ magazine in October 1994.

    According to Chandler in this conversation, "This guy [his attorney, Barry Rothman] is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I've given him full authority to do that." Later in the conversation, Chandler added, "If I go through with this, I win big–time. There's no way I lose. I've checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever… Michael's career will be over… It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want."

    Chandler's plan was to accuse Michael Jackson of child molestation, but unfortunately for Chandler, Jordy refused to implicate Jackson in any way whatsoever. To solve that problem, Chandler took his son to dental anesthesiologist Mark Tobiner. Tobiner injected into Jordy the barbiturate sodium Amytal, under the influence of which a person is highly impressionable; the effect is similar to hypnosis. With sodium Amytal swimming through his system, Jordy said for the first time that Jackson had molested him.


    Finally armed with this crucial tidbit, Chandler brought Jordy to psychiatrist Mathis Abrams, to whom Jordy repeated his allegations of Jackson's misconduct. Abrams contacted the Department of Children's Services, which in turn called the police. Five days after the police began to investigate Jordy's claims, the media discovered the allegations against Jackson.

    A short time later, former Jackson employees emerged into the spotlight, saying they had seen Michael Jackson molesting children other than Jordy. Something worth noting is that all of these employees had been fired, so they had reason not to like Michael Jackson. Also, these employees received money for their stories from tabloids such as The Globe and Hard Copy. When these people were in a courtroom, however, where they had to tell the truth on pain of imprisonment, none of them could say they had seen Jackson perform any untoward acts on even a single young boy.

    Of course, if the case against Michael Jackson was full of holes, then that begs the question of why Jackson settled with the Chandler family rather than fight against the allegations in court. The reason is, said Jackson lawyer John Branca, "He just wanted the whole thing to go away." Jackson naívely believed that if he paid the Chandlers to stop pursuing him, then he could get on with his life. He thought the public would support him instead of a father who would accept money in lieu of justice.

    Almost a decade after the molestation saga, life for Jackson hasn't transpired in the way he had hoped it would. Many people throughout the world still believe Michael Jackson is a freak who abuses children. As Jackson prepares to launch his campaign in support of his new album, Invincible, he must accept that reality and work to change it. Only then could Jackson hope to reestablish the pristine reputation the media took from him in 1993. And only then could Jackson hope for his career to ascend once again to the dizzying heights from which he saw his past albums break all records possible.

    http://www.hypersyl.com/article.php/terracescroll/8

    个人观点:

    真的好同情可怜MJ,当个公众人物何其辛苦,再碰到些如此阴险小人(最最最可恨的就是Evan Chandler,那小孩他老爹,还有那些为了钱的老雇员)联合媒体,为了钱为了名为了利为了打击报复各种造谣,混淆视听,颠倒黑白的,欲加之罪,何患无辞啊,小人真是可恨!!!如果这篇报道评论的话完全可信,MJ那真是背上了莫须有的骂名,忍受各种精神上的折磨,物质上的损失,可怜可悲的很。他为了息事宁人赔了2百万,但结果呢,小人还有媒体会善罢甘休吗?所以,面对小人,息事宁人并不是解决的途径!唉,但愿MJ在天堂,一切都好!!!远离小人,远离是非,让灵魂得到真正的宁静!!!


    google的搜索,在于你输入什么样的“关键字”。。。。。。

    比如:。。。搜索出来的 娈童自曝 获得大约 9,140 条查询结果

    http://www.google.at/search?hl=zh-CN...90%9C%E7%B4%A2

    再比如:。。。搜索 娈童案”主角自曝 获得大约 738 条查询结果

    http://www.google.at/search?hl=zh-CN...%B4%A2&aq=f&oq=


    ps:由于近期考试繁忙,我就不去细看里面是不是有你说的所谓“知名认可的权威网站”了。。。
    此篇文章于 09-06-29 22:53 被 孙小美 编辑。

    我们我们我们。。。猴吱~!
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    预设 回复: 杰克逊“娈童案”主角自曝当年为了钱曾撒谎(组图)

    其实很简单的案例

    为啥能庭外和解呢?

    要是你被人强奸了,你爸你妈收点钱就OK了?
    医学毕业后。。。法医再毕业。。。。其实哥的理想是当一名出色的杀手。。。。收钱的那种。。。。

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    预设 回复: 杰克逊“娈童案”主角自曝当年为了钱曾撒谎(组图)

    唉,NB就是NB,有啥办法?

    引用 作者: w54321 查看文章
    貌似在中国,有些人就是被轮奸致死,她们爸妈却连钱都收不到。。。前两天灌水还有人转了那么个链接,可惜在中国,那种内容的报道却往往被很快“和谐”了。。。
    医学毕业后。。。法医再毕业。。。。其实哥的理想是当一名出色的杀手。。。。收钱的那种。。。。

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    这数字够整的。

    引用 作者: w54321 查看文章
    Jordan Chandler借MJ炒作的够NB的,不查不知道,一查吓一跳,相关网页都已5,040,000之多了啊,胡歌也不过才2,090,000 。。。 这不禁让我联想起那部电影《Wanted》里面男主角不停的用GOOGLE搜索自己的姓名,结果都是0...相比之下,我们还真是nobody,呵呵,MJ最NB!!!92,100,000
    医学毕业后。。。法医再毕业。。。。其实哥的理想是当一名出色的杀手。。。。收钱的那种。。。。

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    引用 作者: w54321 查看文章
    Google的搜索结果超过一定值之后都是四舍五入的,这你不会不晓得吧。。。呵呵,搜“heavywind”结果:1190条,首页前两条都是来自于欧拓,呵呵,也是名人
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    小美,帖子被我水了,不好意思
    医学毕业后。。。法医再毕业。。。。其实哥的理想是当一名出色的杀手。。。。收钱的那种。。。。

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    引用 作者: w54321 查看文章
    只不过: 转帖是转帖,消息是消息,网页是网页,新闻是新闻。

    对哦。。。转帖是转帖,消息是消息,网页是网页,新闻是新闻,报道是报道,事实是事实。。。

    就看你愿意相信哪个了。。。

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